whitemithrandir
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Volourn said:And, oh, btw, even without playing Oblivion; I *know* it sucks.
Idiots.
R00fles! Even without playing Dragon Age I *know* it sucks.
Moron.
Volourn said:And, oh, btw, even without playing Oblivion; I *know* it sucks.
Idiots.
Volourn said:Then don't buy DA. No loss for me.
Moron.
R00fles!
Oh really?Volourn said:"NWN got top scores, and a year later most of those reviewers have openly stated that the game was dull, uninspiring, and, well, crap"
Bullshit.
At worst, they said they it wasn't as perfect as they claimed. In fact, the one place that said they overrated it later compalined that the toolset wasn't as good as they thought; but the OC was still great (to them).
A year later:The 60-hour campaign included with "NWN" isn't superfluous. It's long, bold, and features the kind of slick storytelling BioWare is known for. You can create any character race and class you like and immediately you're immersed in the story line.
lolLame. Dull. These are words that come to mind when we think of the single-player adventure released with the original "Neverwinter Nights" title.
Vault Dweller said:Oh really?Volourn said:"NWN got top scores, and a year later most of those reviewers have openly stated that the game was dull, uninspiring, and, well, crap"
Bullshit.
At worst, they said they it wasn't as perfect as they claimed. In fact, the one place that said they overrated it later compalined that the toolset wasn't as good as they thought; but the OC was still great (to them).
http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3751
A year later:The 60-hour campaign included with "NWN" isn't superfluous. It's long, bold, and features the kind of slick storytelling BioWare is known for. You can create any character race and class you like and immediately you're immersed in the story line.
lolLame. Dull. These are words that come to mind when we think of the single-player adventure released with the original "Neverwinter Nights" title.
I think that's a bit unfair. Your review is the first I've read that even took RPG aspects into consideration. Every other review is playing it like an FPS. "OMFG Great graphics 100% bbq!". That's my gripe. I've always personally maintained that Oblivion will be a fun game and is a fun game but come on, the number of reviews that just ignore everything and give the game 10/10 despite it's problems is asking a bit much.whitemithrandir said:http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=305385
There. That's my post on the official forums. Feel free to leave feedback there, as I think discussion will get one-sided here really, really fast.
DarkUnderlord said:What? A review of Oblivion that doesn't give it 100% 5 stars or 10/10? Why, I'm shocked!
That's rediculous. First of all, you can't create a double standard and just ignore FO and PST because they make whichever game look bad by comparison. People should strive to create games with the interesting plots and settings and characters. I haven't read a single one of these reviews yet where the NPCs are described as anything other than mindless morons. The summary of Oblivion's plot and quests usually has a (rofl?) tag somewhere in the mix, and the setting is generic fantasy. Just how hard can it possibly be to create systems that don't suck, especially when you have the five or so extreme examples of awesomeness and then two dozen or so examples of things that suck? When there are so many sources of inspiration in both literature and other genres of gaming?You must acknowledge that games like Torment and Fallout are rare and one of a kind... they set standards so high that it is hard, but not impossible, to meet and surpass.
Nope.Daigoji_Gai said:I agree with the quality of the review, but don't you think you are being a little melodramatic about the positive reviews out there?DarkUnderlord said:What? A review of Oblivion that doesn't give it 100% 5 stars or 10/10? Why, I'm shocked!
Except the gaming media have an awful tendency to 100% anything that's been hyped to buggery only to later "umm" and "err" over it (think Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Black and White etc..). Seriously, the only real reviews you get anymore are ones that aren't made by people in "the industry".Daigoji_Gai said:Some people like the game without a media buyout conspiracy.
Daigoji_Gai said:You can not, and it is ridiculous to do this, set Torment or Fallout as the only game that receives a 100% - like you identified, the creation of these games, the time when they were created, and the people behind them were unique for their time
not even being considered it was kind'a obvious you, again, wouldn't be able to pick and choose a quest, or fail one, and continue anyway.Todd Howard said:'procedurally generated garbage'
bryce777 said:That's the most fucked up 'organization' for a review, ever.
PS what did Guildenstern think of it?
No game is worth 5/5, 10/10, 100/100, 5*, or whatever other bogus rating system you use.
Daigoji_Gai said:rei1974 said:Damn so even Oblivion isn't really a true RPG? sigh I just ordered my copy now...
What Oblivion does offer, IMHO, is a PnP experience. It is a sandbox, where if you suspend disbelief, accept the world and try to live out that character's life you will find a rewarding experience.
The_Pope said:Are you trying to say modders don't matter, and that games which help them shouldn't be given praise for doing so? Good modding tools are a feature. Good features should be taken into account when writing reviews.
The_Pope said:Are you trying to say modders don't matter, and that games which help them shouldn't be given praise for doing so? Good modding tools are a feature. Good features should be taken into account when writing reviews.
Data4 said:If a reviewer wants to give honorable mention to modding tools, that's one thing, but the game-- as originally designed-- should not be judged on potential.
-D4