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Dungeon Siege is an RPG because that's what it says on the box. Who am I to disagree?
Human Shield said:Because it doesn't offer the main RPG element. It is simple:
Role-playing = Choices from point of view of a character
Game = Success or failure dependant on something (not an imagination get-together)
To complete the two, success or failure is dependant on the character's skills.
RPGs involve choices that the player makes (not script reading) that have impact, and the success of those choices is determined by stats. It isn't playing War as a kid and arguing over who shot who first, you have initiative.
Role-Playing = An instance or situation in which one deliberately acts out or assumes a particular character or role.
What you define as a role playing game is a hell of alot different from a diablo fan, or a final fantasy fan, or even a fucking zelda fan. None of it is set in stone, it's very broad.
You can ponder all you like, but all you'll come up with is what you want in an RPG, not what an RPG is, because there is no definition other than what the actual words mean.
Human Shield said:To complete the two, success or failure is dependant on the character's skills.
Exitium said:Role-playing games shouldn't be about success or failure. They should be about role-playing, and how a player copes with the decisions he makes.
Greyhawk said:I find debating over what RPG is, from personal experience, is much like drinking poison (no, I never did that, though). For me, RPG is when the game offers me choices on how to play my character in the ways I want to, not the way the developers want me to. Plus, it has to make it feel like the choices made aren't just empty, it has to present consequences, specific changes to the gameworld, progression of the game, etc.
Vault Dweller said:And your point is?
Exitium said:Dungeon Siege is an RPG because that's what it says on the box. Who am I to disagree?
Human Shield said:Role-Playing = An instance or situation in which one deliberately acts out or assumes a particular character or role.
You're wrong. That is role-acting, that is what actors do for movies. Role-playing involves playing out the role with freedom of choice, not acting it out.