Spacemoose said:
anyhow, now that GD is in corporate-safe mode, I'm sure the big names will find it easier to take the codex seriously. maybe we can make koby a mod of GD too? I'm sure he'll moderate it into military parade-worthy shape in no time. \o
I already communicated that I'm against perma-bans and thread locks, but now it doesn’t longer matter, DU polled ranked and that ends that.
There is nothing much left to discuss, but then again we are here for the lulz so I'll put in my two bit anyway.
What happened here in the last 24 hours is pretty simple from my perspective, VD was trying take this site somewhere else* than where it is right now, DU isn’t interested, he likes it the way it is.
*Now there are two ways you can look at it:
1) VD is trying to take the codex back to its days of glory, but he doesn't see the retarded smacking that prevented this place from dumbing down in the past, so he goes for the next best thing, the ban stick.
2) VD is trying to take the codex into a new territory, a hub for indie devs, a place where this community can be part of the doing, and not just spectators from the balcony.
Like in most cases, 'teh truth' it is probably somewhere in the middle.
Either way, DU isn’t interested, well, he probably is, but only if the way this is accomplished is by following in the foot steps of out forefathers, and if these foot steps leads us somewhere else, then that’s the way it is because he said so, and he had every right to do so as long as he is in charge.
The rest just doesn’t matter, but we already established that this post is for the lulz, so, on we go.
I have my own take on this approach, obviously, I thing DU is wrong, I think VD should be allowed to take this place to where he wants to, because he shown his committed, because can move this place forward (at least from my PoV) because taking this place where this community is part of doing is a good thing. Doing is where it at, being part of the process. Doing, one way or another, stimulate and sustain the most interesting, focused, and hardest to the core discussion. And if I'm not mistaken, this is what RPGCodex is about, in its style, no matter what the subject is.
And right now, VD looks like the best candidate to make this happen. And yes that includes tolerating, (A)
to some extent, his ridicules ego and his incapacity to admit he is wrong (B)
as long as that at the bottom line he is taking this site
forward.
Having said that, VD…
YOU WHERE WORNG!
WORNG! WORNG! WORNG! WORNG!
Vault Dweller said:
Now, the interview. I did it after BA (damn, BA again! I'm beggining to suspect that he's some kinda Zionist agent-provocateur) told me that answering my own questions, in any context, was a stupid idea and that I made an ass out of myself. Then I removed it. Not to contradict your opinion, which was the real crime there, I guess, but to listen to another *active* admin.
This is one of the best examples. You where wrong here twice, WORNG! You where wrong when you put that article up without the disclaimer, it happens, and then BA tells you where wrong. This is where you should have acknowledged you mistake,
learn from it, and move forward. But you decided you didn’t do anything WORNG, so you covered up your shit so you can put it behind you. And then the expected happened, the problem didn’t go away, because it wasn’t solved, because you didn’t really understand the heart of the problem. DU had to step in, fix that problem for you because you didn’t FIXED the problem; you just brushed it up under the rug.
You cover up was the second mistake, and a much bigger one then the first. And the only reason you did that mistake was you ego, your huge ego not only prevented you from understanding what the problem was in the first place, it prevented you from fixing it, and if that’s not enough, it, your ego, made you make a much bigger mistake.
Stop looking for excuses.
This is one of the best examples, because it shows, step by step, what happens when you don’t acknowledge your mistakes. You acknowledge your mistake, so you can learn from it. After you done that you own your mistake and you can move forward.
No wander DU is pissed at you, I was pissed at you. I don’t blame DU for the way he is acting, could have this been done better? Sure. But sometimes you are so thick, people just can't get through to you. You refusal to acknowledge your mistakes makes you a very hard person to work with, again, you can only blame your ego. I said this before, several times, not in the length I'm saying it now, but its there, you just don’t want to listen.
You are not a team player.
I'm pretty sure (and there is a high probability I'm wrong here but fuck it) that DU wants you to take this site forward, but he wants it to be a team effort and, and as long as you can't control your ego (just like some of the retard here cant control themselves in general retardness, and yes these two thing are that similar, congratulations you letting your ego take you down to their level) its not going to happen, not here.
And yes, your ego, yes that thing,
again, did have a crucial role in the latest shit storm drama. Your ego,
out of all things. Are you starting to understand just how much you are letting you ego do and decide for you? (and for god sakes man don’t ever, ever try your luck in a technical profession or discussion, or any other field you can be proven wrong with little ease, your ego wont handle it.)
I didn’t ram in to you harder, because I couldn’t be bothered, because I liked what you did with this place. You a mover, you make stuff happen. An asset. But as long as you can't get over yourself, you shouldn't be a team player, you should do your own thing on your own terms. Maybe I should have, and that’s probably where I was wrong, I did saw this shit storm coming, but did nothing other then an off topic tidbit directed at you.
SEE? I just acknowledge I did a mistake, and the sky didn’t fall on my ass (at least not yet
).
Anyway @DU, sometimes I get the feeling you got a little (if not more) jaded somewhere along the way, I'm not sure where exactly I got that from, maybe it is from the fact that I only see you here when there is some drama going on, but I'm not sure. Maybe you are jaded from administrating too many niche sites for too long, niche sites that AFAIK didn’t gain any serious traction , maybe I'm just shooting in the dark, trying to hit something that doesn’t exist in the first place (probably not
).
I also don’t get all the "
but that’s the way saint did it", that argument is invalidated the minute he walked away. If you are not willing/ready/motivated to step in, and take his place, whey are you not letting other, other that seems like they can handle it.
With AoD, VD is brining something to the table that even *gasp* Saint didn’t managed to bring. And if that doesn’t count, for a lot (comparing saint and VD news covering and mentioning not Aod in order to point out who had a bigger contribution to this site? wtf?) I don’t know what does. AoD IMHO brought at least as many good poster to this place as saint did, if not more (the people that where here from day one don’t count).
Any which case If you do agree that VD is the best candidate for someone how can take this place forward, remember, with power comes responsibility and all that crap, or in other word it is you job to
make it work.
