Incline What are you working on?

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

Got a whole new look for the portraits and settings that was far more 1920's retro ... then realized all my Lovecraft monsters were now so cartoonish and gay they ruined the entire artistic style.

So I went back to my training program to match the new style and I found that I can add a bit of IK animation to any creature I create using a Unity tool called Puppet 2D. Starting with the static output of the AI and a bit of fudging, the monsters are now more lifelike and maybe I will add an attack and hurt animation to each as well.

This is the sort of monster below I have gotten out of the generator, it matches the more realistic style and the dark horror feel a lot better. With the addition of blood splashes or ichor splashes the hits are looking cooler too. Really coming together to look AAA. I had to go in and switch to new portrait frames and UI as well to match everything else.

All using Fudge RPG math, working pretty good.

 

[luj1]

Realistic is good. Just don't flip flop between different styles like some developers.

 

[Viata]

Realistic is good. Just don't flip flop between different styles like some developers.

Like Grimoire with some character's art? :^)

 

[luj1]

Like what? Grimoire is consistent in art style.

 

[Viata]

This character has an anime design compared to most characters in the game. I believe this was done by a different artist.

 

[luj1]

Which version is this from? I dont remember this character.

 

[Viata]

I don't know which version had it, but I remember having it back when I finished the game.

 

[Late Bloomer]

Does the description have anything to do with it?

 

[Dadd]

There were two characters that looked like that. But I'm not sure if you could skip them.

 

[Serus]

Realistic is good. Just don't flip flop between different styles like some developers.

If you meant Knights of the Chalice 2, Pierre did only a flip, there was no flop.

A bad thing to do in middle of development nonetheless.

 

[Lady Error]

Which version is this from? I dont remember this character.

It's the Cleric in a shop in Crowl. You can recruit her too.

 

[Dorateen]

And she looks like Diabla from the Kublai Axis. I always figured she was Raghilda's evil twin sister and killed her.

 

[King Crispy]

It's so realistic it also shows rat shit.

 

[Butter]

Which version is this from? I dont remember this character.

Raghilda is a significant character in the first town, and she looks like this in the current version of Grimoire.

 

[luj1]

Cleveland Mark Blakemore Why did you change this?

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

It's so realistic it also shows rat shit.

I think the AI was trying to interpret "filthy mutant rat of enormous size" in the conception.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

Cleveland Mark Blakemore Why did you change this?

Raghilda used the model for the female druids previously. I wanted a scholar and I had one in my assets. A little animation and presto a new Raghilda for V2.0 ... many other new monster graphics added for that version.

 

[luj1]

Weaboo anime stuff like this is out of place in Grimoire. It doesn't match the rest of the game which has 'western fantasy' written all over.

 

[LostHisMarbles]

Agreed on one hand.. on the other, they would have fit right in in the Wizardries, so..

 

[Butter]

Agreed on one hand.. on the other, they would have fit right in in the Wizardries, so..

Not the real Wizardries.

 

[LostHisMarbles]

Not the real Wizardries.

I'd have disagreed, but my knowledge of them being limited.. explain?

 

[Butter]

The only Sir-Tech product that leans into anime aesthetics at all is the appalling Wizardry Gold, and even then it's only with the butchered character portraits. It wasn't until the Japs bought the franchise that it really went out of control.



This video shows a character portrait that was clearly intended for ninjas, and it's not remotely anime. It also shows the Gorn, an apparently East Asian-influenced race, who nevertheless show no signs of anime influence.


Here's what a ninja looks like in Wizardry IV (note the lack of anime influence again):

 

[LostHisMarbles]

Appreciate it
So then i agree with luj1 100% ^^

 

[ShaggyMoose]

If you are into lovecraftian setting use midjourney its more advanced than anything else so far in my opinion, does that and post apoc really good... just have to photoshop a few bits to correct some imperfections.

Yeah, like the fact that the table has no fucking legs?! Actually, the cake looks like it's hovering too so can't tell whether its all part of the same intent, or just plain broken.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

The only Sir-Tech product that leans into anime aesthetics at all is the appalling Wizardry Gold, and even then it's only with the butchered character portraits. It wasn't until the Japs bought the franchise that it really went out of control.

Just got Wiz Gold installed from GOG on my new machine and had forgotten what a travesty of style it was. Had to be Brenda's doing. They marred the legacy of Wiz 7 with their childish desecration of it's beautiful 8-bit artwork. Turned it into a weaboo graffiti wall.

I think they used maybe 6 colors altogether in their redo of the portraits and they look so juvenile it is embarrassing, straight out of Sailor Moon. They also mutilated nearly every aspect of the original.

Did not "release" anything deserving of mention for next 10 years while they burned through their capital and destroyed their own IP. Wiz 8 junk was only crapped out into a safety diaper after they went bankrupt. Lose, fail and lose again.

P.S. Those original W7 portraits are so good. I think they are 48x48 pixels at 256 colors. They are amazing, have shadow and rimlights and all clearly hand drawn.